Gold overtakes U.S. Treasuries as the largest foreign reserve asset
hackernews682
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therobots927
America really is in for a wake up call.
themafia
The federal government is. We'll see if the founders concept of a union of states is worth as much as it was proclaimed to be.
refurb
Why? Because gold bugs caused a gold bubble?
consumer451
The fact that this all happened by choice is really something.
It's like witnessing a self-decapitation.
SilverElfin
It’s not a self decapitation exactly. I think Trump, his family, his corporate donors, and other friends are all willing to sacrifice everyone else - including the lead America had - to make themselves rich and powerful. Every single decision to spend - defense, ICE contracts, AI, approvals of anticompetitive acquisitions, changes to regulations, etc - is making that circle richer at our expense.
They don’t care if American supremacy is lost or if the dollar crashes or if the national debt becomes a crisis. As long as they have their wealth. The public is being decapitated, not them.
themafia
America just experienced a leveraged buy out.
refurb
Not really. It has more to do with gold is now worth almost 3x what it was 2 years ago.
And before you get too excited, this "news" from the World Gold Council. A consortium of gold mining corporations. Clearly it's a pump article "have you bought gold yet? everyone else is! why not you!?!?"
somenameforme
It's a choice that started in 1971. [1] People always act like every single geopolitical thing is the end of the world when it runs against their political biases, but in reality this nonsense will end soon enough and then we'll be onto the next nonsense soon enough.
It's really just never-ending nonsense because there seems to be this need for there always to be some 'current big thing', and in the absence of such we inevitably create it. Probably the nature of bureaucracy paired with a military industrial complex. There's always a need to blow things up somewhere to keep the gears turning and the dollars flowing.
Anyhow, the point of this is that countries respond far more slowly to geopolitical stuff than people do. They're certainly not going to just dump all their dollar reserves because of a single misguided war or even misguided president. In a couple of years he'll be gone, and soon enough we'll be in a brand new self destructive proxy war with China or whatever. It's just the nature of the world, or at least the US, and countries are well aware of this, dramatic public rhetoric to the contrary notwithstanding.
You're seeing the result of something that's been decades in the making. You can see a simple table of dollar reserves here. [1] They've been consistently falling year over year for the past 27 years. And it's not like 1999 was anything particular. Rather the uptake leading up to 1999 as a peak was a result of shenanigans that happened in 1971 [2]. That's when the USD became completely unbacked by anything, enabling the government to start going arbitrarily far into debt. That had short to mid-term positive impacts and long-term catastrophic ones, as is the typical strategy in modern times.
People always exaggerate the impact of geopolitical things, because it feels like the biggest thing ever, especially when you're relatively young. But in reality we're always onto nonsense after nonsense. Countries have the wisdom and view to appreciate this, and so respond to geopolitical stuff (in action, not rhetoric) far more gradually than people do. They're certainly not going to just dump all their dollar reserves because of a single misguided war or even misguided president, or they'd have been gone long ago.
That's fair. I agree. I was thinking of the USA as one actor. The USA votes, or chooses not to, and that has effects.
SilverElfin
True. In that sense the voters have self decapitated. I can’t understand how the Trump administration still has support from 40% of the country (per polls). I could understand voting for him due to some issue a voter has strong feelings about. But now we have seen it all play out and it’s a disaster leading to national ruin. And there is no talk of impeachment, trials, and accountability for everyone in his circle. So I guess that 40% does choose to self decapitate.
potamic
Dated Jan 9. When the headlines is in present tense, it is kinda misleading to post as-is at a later time.
dartharva
Weakening your own domain to get powerful sounds clearly contradictory, yet there are so many examples of elites doing exactly that despite the fact that doing so must've required foresight and planning elaborate enough to not blind them from the consequences.
icegreentea2
The events of the last year certainly have a role to play, but the overall effect is just the result of trendlines that have been in play for quite a while.
Too tired to write a novel like I usually would here, but we control the printing and, in large part, the distribution of USD. We don't control anything about gold. Then the USD was king, it entailed tremendous power and control in many ways beyond the obvious like the ability to try to kick people out of the 'global' economy. This is the not-so-secret purpose behind BRICS and dates back to issues starting in 1971.
refurb
How does sacrificing America's lead make American oligarchs richer? That doesn't even make sense.
bijowo1676
just like stock trader, you can get rich from going long, you also can get rich by shorting the economy (selling short).
this is what trump is doing: selling America short
vincnetas
basically make decisions that make no sense but benefit you financially. Sample. you run a printing business. you dont own it just run it. you sell your main printer and assign a performance bonus to your self. next month your business is closed because you dont have equipment to print, but you also have your bonus in pocket.
toyg
It does, it's textbook "banana republic". Dictator and close circles enrich themselves, everyone else gets poorer.
US voters were so worried that South America would come to them, that they have become the worst of South America.
heavyset_go
Look at post-USSR Russia
aloha2436
America was in practice running an empire that collected tribute from the rest of planet earth in exchange for entries in a database denominated in a currency they controlled and was accepted everywhere. Really the only way it could go wrong is putting it under the control of someone too stupid to understand the kayfabe...
bijowo1676
elections have consequences...
rapind
> someone too stupid to understand
That's only true if he's actually "your guy". There's an alternative where it's not stupidity that I think more people should be mulling over.
shake_head_pig2
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epolanski
And yet the current administration is fixated with trade balance (which conveniently ignores the most important US export that's not accounted: services).
Look at them countries sending food, cars, machinery for pieces of paper. They taking advantage of us!
epolanski
US will have to refinance $ 10T of debt next year. That's a gargantuan amount of money and I see no scenario in which this won't have quite higher yields than the expiring one, remnant of the low rate decade.
With foreigners and hedge funds less prone to buy US debt right now it's going to be quite interesting to see what will happen.
neonstatic
I think pinning this on one guy is a gross oversimplification driven by personal dislike for that guy. In my opinion larger forces are at play. I don't mean it in a conspiratorial way; simply put, the structure of global trade, economy, military power, etc. have shifted to such a degree, that this process has become inevitable.
yalogin
I am actually convinced that the last year started the descent of the U.S. as the world’s super power. No wonder U.S. treasuries lost trust. It’s only going to get worse. It doesn’t matter what some billionaires do/get from their ability to manipulate some powers be. The rest of the investment community understands that free markets are strengthened by rule of law and adherence to the law and deploying a self styled socialistic distribution of economic capital is not signaling strength but weakness to the world.
laughing_man
People have been convinced of that my entire life, and I'm old now.
gpvos
It only accelerated what was already happening. But yes, Trump accelerated it by a lot. He's a madman.
bijowo1676
The worst part is that I dont see a meaningful opposition to Trump.
if American political system allows President to do that and allows such President to be elected, than such system deserves to die.
Animats
Wow. This reflects the price of gold going up. A lot.
edweis
Is there a place where we can find the complete USA investment portfolio?
justsomedev2
Cant wait for US to go bankrupt
nickserv
Be careful what you wish for.
richardatlarge
Silver has gone up more by percentage since 47, as a side note
hackernews682
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therobots927
America really is in for a wake up call.
themafia
The federal government is. We'll see if the founders concept of a union of states is worth as much as it was proclaimed to be.
refurb
Why? Because gold bugs caused a gold bubble?
consumer451
The fact that this all happened by choice is really something.
It's like witnessing a self-decapitation.
SilverElfin
It’s not a self decapitation exactly. I think Trump, his family, his corporate donors, and other friends are all willing to sacrifice everyone else - including the lead America had - to make themselves rich and powerful. Every single decision to spend - defense, ICE contracts, AI, approvals of anticompetitive acquisitions, changes to regulations, etc - is making that circle richer at our expense.
They don’t care if American supremacy is lost or if the dollar crashes or if the national debt becomes a crisis. As long as they have their wealth. The public is being decapitated, not them.
themafia
America just experienced a leveraged buy out.
refurb
Not really. It has more to do with gold is now worth almost 3x what it was 2 years ago.
And before you get too excited, this "news" from the World Gold Council. A consortium of gold mining corporations. Clearly it's a pump article "have you bought gold yet? everyone else is! why not you!?!?"
somenameforme
It's a choice that started in 1971. [1] People always act like every single geopolitical thing is the end of the world when it runs against their political biases, but in reality this nonsense will end soon enough and then we'll be onto the next nonsense soon enough.
It's really just never-ending nonsense because there seems to be this need for there always to be some 'current big thing', and in the absence of such we inevitably create it. Probably the nature of bureaucracy paired with a military industrial complex. There's always a need to blow things up somewhere to keep the gears turning and the dollars flowing.
Anyhow, the point of this is that countries respond far more slowly to geopolitical stuff than people do. They're certainly not going to just dump all their dollar reserves because of a single misguided war or even misguided president. In a couple of years he'll be gone, and soon enough we'll be in a brand new self destructive proxy war with China or whatever. It's just the nature of the world, or at least the US, and countries are well aware of this, dramatic public rhetoric to the contrary notwithstanding.
You're seeing the result of something that's been decades in the making. You can see a simple table of dollar reserves here. [1] They've been consistently falling year over year for the past 27 years. And it's not like 1999 was anything particular. Rather the uptake leading up to 1999 as a peak was a result of shenanigans that happened in 1971 [2]. That's when the USD became completely unbacked by anything, enabling the government to start going arbitrarily far into debt. That had short to mid-term positive impacts and long-term catastrophic ones, as is the typical strategy in modern times.
People always exaggerate the impact of geopolitical things, because it feels like the biggest thing ever, especially when you're relatively young. But in reality we're always onto nonsense after nonsense. Countries have the wisdom and view to appreciate this, and so respond to geopolitical stuff (in action, not rhetoric) far more gradually than people do. They're certainly not going to just dump all their dollar reserves because of a single misguided war or even misguided president, or they'd have been gone long ago.
That's fair. I agree. I was thinking of the USA as one actor. The USA votes, or chooses not to, and that has effects.
SilverElfin
True. In that sense the voters have self decapitated. I can’t understand how the Trump administration still has support from 40% of the country (per polls). I could understand voting for him due to some issue a voter has strong feelings about. But now we have seen it all play out and it’s a disaster leading to national ruin. And there is no talk of impeachment, trials, and accountability for everyone in his circle. So I guess that 40% does choose to self decapitate.
potamic
Dated Jan 9. When the headlines is in present tense, it is kinda misleading to post as-is at a later time.
dartharva
Weakening your own domain to get powerful sounds clearly contradictory, yet there are so many examples of elites doing exactly that despite the fact that doing so must've required foresight and planning elaborate enough to not blind them from the consequences.
icegreentea2
The events of the last year certainly have a role to play, but the overall effect is just the result of trendlines that have been in play for quite a while.
Too tired to write a novel like I usually would here, but we control the printing and, in large part, the distribution of USD. We don't control anything about gold. Then the USD was king, it entailed tremendous power and control in many ways beyond the obvious like the ability to try to kick people out of the 'global' economy. This is the not-so-secret purpose behind BRICS and dates back to issues starting in 1971.
refurb
How does sacrificing America's lead make American oligarchs richer? That doesn't even make sense.
bijowo1676
just like stock trader, you can get rich from going long, you also can get rich by shorting the economy (selling short).
this is what trump is doing: selling America short
vincnetas
basically make decisions that make no sense but benefit you financially. Sample. you run a printing business. you dont own it just run it. you sell your main printer and assign a performance bonus to your self. next month your business is closed because you dont have equipment to print, but you also have your bonus in pocket.
toyg
It does, it's textbook "banana republic". Dictator and close circles enrich themselves, everyone else gets poorer.
US voters were so worried that South America would come to them, that they have become the worst of South America.
heavyset_go
Look at post-USSR Russia
aloha2436
America was in practice running an empire that collected tribute from the rest of planet earth in exchange for entries in a database denominated in a currency they controlled and was accepted everywhere. Really the only way it could go wrong is putting it under the control of someone too stupid to understand the kayfabe...
bijowo1676
elections have consequences...
rapind
> someone too stupid to understand
That's only true if he's actually "your guy". There's an alternative where it's not stupidity that I think more people should be mulling over.
shake_head_pig2
[dead]
epolanski
And yet the current administration is fixated with trade balance (which conveniently ignores the most important US export that's not accounted: services).
Look at them countries sending food, cars, machinery for pieces of paper. They taking advantage of us!
epolanski
US will have to refinance $ 10T of debt next year. That's a gargantuan amount of money and I see no scenario in which this won't have quite higher yields than the expiring one, remnant of the low rate decade.
With foreigners and hedge funds less prone to buy US debt right now it's going to be quite interesting to see what will happen.
neonstatic
I think pinning this on one guy is a gross oversimplification driven by personal dislike for that guy. In my opinion larger forces are at play. I don't mean it in a conspiratorial way; simply put, the structure of global trade, economy, military power, etc. have shifted to such a degree, that this process has become inevitable.
yalogin
I am actually convinced that the last year started the descent of the U.S. as the world’s super power. No wonder U.S. treasuries lost trust. It’s only going to get worse. It doesn’t matter what some billionaires do/get from their ability to manipulate some powers be. The rest of the investment community understands that free markets are strengthened by rule of law and adherence to the law and deploying a self styled socialistic distribution of economic capital is not signaling strength but weakness to the world.
laughing_man
People have been convinced of that my entire life, and I'm old now.
gpvos
It only accelerated what was already happening. But yes, Trump accelerated it by a lot. He's a madman.
bijowo1676
The worst part is that I dont see a meaningful opposition to Trump.
if American political system allows President to do that and allows such President to be elected, than such system deserves to die.
Animats
Wow. This reflects the price of gold going up. A lot.
edweis
Is there a place where we can find the complete USA investment portfolio?
justsomedev2
Cant wait for US to go bankrupt
nickserv
Be careful what you wish for.
richardatlarge
Silver has gone up more by percentage since 47, as a side note
[flagged]
America really is in for a wake up call.
The federal government is. We'll see if the founders concept of a union of states is worth as much as it was proclaimed to be.
Why? Because gold bugs caused a gold bubble?
The fact that this all happened by choice is really something.
It's like witnessing a self-decapitation.
It’s not a self decapitation exactly. I think Trump, his family, his corporate donors, and other friends are all willing to sacrifice everyone else - including the lead America had - to make themselves rich and powerful. Every single decision to spend - defense, ICE contracts, AI, approvals of anticompetitive acquisitions, changes to regulations, etc - is making that circle richer at our expense.
They don’t care if American supremacy is lost or if the dollar crashes or if the national debt becomes a crisis. As long as they have their wealth. The public is being decapitated, not them.
America just experienced a leveraged buy out.
Not really. It has more to do with gold is now worth almost 3x what it was 2 years ago.
And before you get too excited, this "news" from the World Gold Council. A consortium of gold mining corporations. Clearly it's a pump article "have you bought gold yet? everyone else is! why not you!?!?"
It's a choice that started in 1971. [1] People always act like every single geopolitical thing is the end of the world when it runs against their political biases, but in reality this nonsense will end soon enough and then we'll be onto the next nonsense soon enough.
It's really just never-ending nonsense because there seems to be this need for there always to be some 'current big thing', and in the absence of such we inevitably create it. Probably the nature of bureaucracy paired with a military industrial complex. There's always a need to blow things up somewhere to keep the gears turning and the dollars flowing.
Anyhow, the point of this is that countries respond far more slowly to geopolitical stuff than people do. They're certainly not going to just dump all their dollar reserves because of a single misguided war or even misguided president. In a couple of years he'll be gone, and soon enough we'll be in a brand new self destructive proxy war with China or whatever. It's just the nature of the world, or at least the US, and countries are well aware of this, dramatic public rhetoric to the contrary notwithstanding.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_system#Nixon_sho...
[1] - https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
You're seeing the result of something that's been decades in the making. You can see a simple table of dollar reserves here. [1] They've been consistently falling year over year for the past 27 years. And it's not like 1999 was anything particular. Rather the uptake leading up to 1999 as a peak was a result of shenanigans that happened in 1971 [2]. That's when the USD became completely unbacked by anything, enabling the government to start going arbitrarily far into debt. That had short to mid-term positive impacts and long-term catastrophic ones, as is the typical strategy in modern times.
People always exaggerate the impact of geopolitical things, because it feels like the biggest thing ever, especially when you're relatively young. But in reality we're always onto nonsense after nonsense. Countries have the wisdom and view to appreciate this, and so respond to geopolitical stuff (in action, not rhetoric) far more gradually than people do. They're certainly not going to just dump all their dollar reserves because of a single misguided war or even misguided president, or they'd have been gone long ago.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency#Global_curren...
[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_system#Nixon_sho...
[2] - https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
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That's fair. I agree. I was thinking of the USA as one actor. The USA votes, or chooses not to, and that has effects.
True. In that sense the voters have self decapitated. I can’t understand how the Trump administration still has support from 40% of the country (per polls). I could understand voting for him due to some issue a voter has strong feelings about. But now we have seen it all play out and it’s a disaster leading to national ruin. And there is no talk of impeachment, trials, and accountability for everyone in his circle. So I guess that 40% does choose to self decapitate.
Dated Jan 9. When the headlines is in present tense, it is kinda misleading to post as-is at a later time.
Weakening your own domain to get powerful sounds clearly contradictory, yet there are so many examples of elites doing exactly that despite the fact that doing so must've required foresight and planning elaborate enough to not blind them from the consequences.
The events of the last year certainly have a role to play, but the overall effect is just the result of trendlines that have been in play for quite a while.
Here's a world gold council (i know...) review/survey of central banks gold holdings from mid 2025 (https://www.gold.org/goldhub/research/central-bank-gold-rese...). It notes that gold purchases (by mass) have been elevated going back to ~2023.
Gold prices have also been on an upward trajectory ever since 2023 (https://goldprice.org/gold-price-history.html)
Whatever is happening now is bigger than actions over the last year.
Gold has always been stable, because it is physically limited.
It is the fiat currency debasement via unlimited money printing that makes the gold chart go up.
Imagine being in Zimbabwe or Weimar Germany and watching your stock portfolio and gold going up...
If the value of gold goes up, doesn't this essentially help the US anyway? I believe our gold reservers are twice that of the closest country?
Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gold-reserves
Too tired to write a novel like I usually would here, but we control the printing and, in large part, the distribution of USD. We don't control anything about gold. Then the USD was king, it entailed tremendous power and control in many ways beyond the obvious like the ability to try to kick people out of the 'global' economy. This is the not-so-secret purpose behind BRICS and dates back to issues starting in 1971.
How does sacrificing America's lead make American oligarchs richer? That doesn't even make sense.
just like stock trader, you can get rich from going long, you also can get rich by shorting the economy (selling short).
this is what trump is doing: selling America short
basically make decisions that make no sense but benefit you financially. Sample. you run a printing business. you dont own it just run it. you sell your main printer and assign a performance bonus to your self. next month your business is closed because you dont have equipment to print, but you also have your bonus in pocket.
It does, it's textbook "banana republic". Dictator and close circles enrich themselves, everyone else gets poorer.
US voters were so worried that South America would come to them, that they have become the worst of South America.
Look at post-USSR Russia
America was in practice running an empire that collected tribute from the rest of planet earth in exchange for entries in a database denominated in a currency they controlled and was accepted everywhere. Really the only way it could go wrong is putting it under the control of someone too stupid to understand the kayfabe...
elections have consequences...
> someone too stupid to understand
That's only true if he's actually "your guy". There's an alternative where it's not stupidity that I think more people should be mulling over.
[dead]
And yet the current administration is fixated with trade balance (which conveniently ignores the most important US export that's not accounted: services).
Look at them countries sending food, cars, machinery for pieces of paper. They taking advantage of us!
US will have to refinance $ 10T of debt next year. That's a gargantuan amount of money and I see no scenario in which this won't have quite higher yields than the expiring one, remnant of the low rate decade.
With foreigners and hedge funds less prone to buy US debt right now it's going to be quite interesting to see what will happen.
I think pinning this on one guy is a gross oversimplification driven by personal dislike for that guy. In my opinion larger forces are at play. I don't mean it in a conspiratorial way; simply put, the structure of global trade, economy, military power, etc. have shifted to such a degree, that this process has become inevitable.
I am actually convinced that the last year started the descent of the U.S. as the world’s super power. No wonder U.S. treasuries lost trust. It’s only going to get worse. It doesn’t matter what some billionaires do/get from their ability to manipulate some powers be. The rest of the investment community understands that free markets are strengthened by rule of law and adherence to the law and deploying a self styled socialistic distribution of economic capital is not signaling strength but weakness to the world.
People have been convinced of that my entire life, and I'm old now.
It only accelerated what was already happening. But yes, Trump accelerated it by a lot. He's a madman.
The worst part is that I dont see a meaningful opposition to Trump.
if American political system allows President to do that and allows such President to be elected, than such system deserves to die.
Wow. This reflects the price of gold going up. A lot.
Is there a place where we can find the complete USA investment portfolio?
Cant wait for US to go bankrupt
Be careful what you wish for.
Silver has gone up more by percentage since 47, as a side note
[flagged]
America really is in for a wake up call.
The federal government is. We'll see if the founders concept of a union of states is worth as much as it was proclaimed to be.
Why? Because gold bugs caused a gold bubble?
The fact that this all happened by choice is really something.
It's like witnessing a self-decapitation.
It’s not a self decapitation exactly. I think Trump, his family, his corporate donors, and other friends are all willing to sacrifice everyone else - including the lead America had - to make themselves rich and powerful. Every single decision to spend - defense, ICE contracts, AI, approvals of anticompetitive acquisitions, changes to regulations, etc - is making that circle richer at our expense.
They don’t care if American supremacy is lost or if the dollar crashes or if the national debt becomes a crisis. As long as they have their wealth. The public is being decapitated, not them.
America just experienced a leveraged buy out.
Not really. It has more to do with gold is now worth almost 3x what it was 2 years ago.
And before you get too excited, this "news" from the World Gold Council. A consortium of gold mining corporations. Clearly it's a pump article "have you bought gold yet? everyone else is! why not you!?!?"
It's a choice that started in 1971. [1] People always act like every single geopolitical thing is the end of the world when it runs against their political biases, but in reality this nonsense will end soon enough and then we'll be onto the next nonsense soon enough.
It's really just never-ending nonsense because there seems to be this need for there always to be some 'current big thing', and in the absence of such we inevitably create it. Probably the nature of bureaucracy paired with a military industrial complex. There's always a need to blow things up somewhere to keep the gears turning and the dollars flowing.
Anyhow, the point of this is that countries respond far more slowly to geopolitical stuff than people do. They're certainly not going to just dump all their dollar reserves because of a single misguided war or even misguided president. In a couple of years he'll be gone, and soon enough we'll be in a brand new self destructive proxy war with China or whatever. It's just the nature of the world, or at least the US, and countries are well aware of this, dramatic public rhetoric to the contrary notwithstanding.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_system#Nixon_sho...
[1] - https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
You're seeing the result of something that's been decades in the making. You can see a simple table of dollar reserves here. [1] They've been consistently falling year over year for the past 27 years. And it's not like 1999 was anything particular. Rather the uptake leading up to 1999 as a peak was a result of shenanigans that happened in 1971 [2]. That's when the USD became completely unbacked by anything, enabling the government to start going arbitrarily far into debt. That had short to mid-term positive impacts and long-term catastrophic ones, as is the typical strategy in modern times.
People always exaggerate the impact of geopolitical things, because it feels like the biggest thing ever, especially when you're relatively young. But in reality we're always onto nonsense after nonsense. Countries have the wisdom and view to appreciate this, and so respond to geopolitical stuff (in action, not rhetoric) far more gradually than people do. They're certainly not going to just dump all their dollar reserves because of a single misguided war or even misguided president, or they'd have been gone long ago.
[1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reserve_currency#Global_curren...
[2] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bretton_Woods_system#Nixon_sho...
[2] - https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/
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That's fair. I agree. I was thinking of the USA as one actor. The USA votes, or chooses not to, and that has effects.
True. In that sense the voters have self decapitated. I can’t understand how the Trump administration still has support from 40% of the country (per polls). I could understand voting for him due to some issue a voter has strong feelings about. But now we have seen it all play out and it’s a disaster leading to national ruin. And there is no talk of impeachment, trials, and accountability for everyone in his circle. So I guess that 40% does choose to self decapitate.
Dated Jan 9. When the headlines is in present tense, it is kinda misleading to post as-is at a later time.
Weakening your own domain to get powerful sounds clearly contradictory, yet there are so many examples of elites doing exactly that despite the fact that doing so must've required foresight and planning elaborate enough to not blind them from the consequences.
The events of the last year certainly have a role to play, but the overall effect is just the result of trendlines that have been in play for quite a while.
Here's a world gold council (i know...) review/survey of central banks gold holdings from mid 2025 (https://www.gold.org/goldhub/research/central-bank-gold-rese...). It notes that gold purchases (by mass) have been elevated going back to ~2023.
Gold prices have also been on an upward trajectory ever since 2023 (https://goldprice.org/gold-price-history.html)
Whatever is happening now is bigger than actions over the last year.
Gold has always been stable, because it is physically limited.
It is the fiat currency debasement via unlimited money printing that makes the gold chart go up.
Imagine being in Zimbabwe or Weimar Germany and watching your stock portfolio and gold going up...
If the value of gold goes up, doesn't this essentially help the US anyway? I believe our gold reservers are twice that of the closest country?
Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/country-list/gold-reserves
Too tired to write a novel like I usually would here, but we control the printing and, in large part, the distribution of USD. We don't control anything about gold. Then the USD was king, it entailed tremendous power and control in many ways beyond the obvious like the ability to try to kick people out of the 'global' economy. This is the not-so-secret purpose behind BRICS and dates back to issues starting in 1971.
How does sacrificing America's lead make American oligarchs richer? That doesn't even make sense.
just like stock trader, you can get rich from going long, you also can get rich by shorting the economy (selling short).
this is what trump is doing: selling America short
basically make decisions that make no sense but benefit you financially. Sample. you run a printing business. you dont own it just run it. you sell your main printer and assign a performance bonus to your self. next month your business is closed because you dont have equipment to print, but you also have your bonus in pocket.
It does, it's textbook "banana republic". Dictator and close circles enrich themselves, everyone else gets poorer.
US voters were so worried that South America would come to them, that they have become the worst of South America.
Look at post-USSR Russia
America was in practice running an empire that collected tribute from the rest of planet earth in exchange for entries in a database denominated in a currency they controlled and was accepted everywhere. Really the only way it could go wrong is putting it under the control of someone too stupid to understand the kayfabe...
elections have consequences...
> someone too stupid to understand
That's only true if he's actually "your guy". There's an alternative where it's not stupidity that I think more people should be mulling over.
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And yet the current administration is fixated with trade balance (which conveniently ignores the most important US export that's not accounted: services).
Look at them countries sending food, cars, machinery for pieces of paper. They taking advantage of us!
US will have to refinance $ 10T of debt next year. That's a gargantuan amount of money and I see no scenario in which this won't have quite higher yields than the expiring one, remnant of the low rate decade.
With foreigners and hedge funds less prone to buy US debt right now it's going to be quite interesting to see what will happen.
I think pinning this on one guy is a gross oversimplification driven by personal dislike for that guy. In my opinion larger forces are at play. I don't mean it in a conspiratorial way; simply put, the structure of global trade, economy, military power, etc. have shifted to such a degree, that this process has become inevitable.
I am actually convinced that the last year started the descent of the U.S. as the world’s super power. No wonder U.S. treasuries lost trust. It’s only going to get worse. It doesn’t matter what some billionaires do/get from their ability to manipulate some powers be. The rest of the investment community understands that free markets are strengthened by rule of law and adherence to the law and deploying a self styled socialistic distribution of economic capital is not signaling strength but weakness to the world.
People have been convinced of that my entire life, and I'm old now.
It only accelerated what was already happening. But yes, Trump accelerated it by a lot. He's a madman.
The worst part is that I dont see a meaningful opposition to Trump.
if American political system allows President to do that and allows such President to be elected, than such system deserves to die.
Wow. This reflects the price of gold going up. A lot.
Is there a place where we can find the complete USA investment portfolio?
Cant wait for US to go bankrupt
Be careful what you wish for.
Silver has gone up more by percentage since 47, as a side note